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    After the 9/11 twin tower attack in New York, a joint US-Pak intelligence operation to hunt down terrorists of Al Qaeda in the War against Terror was started. Pakistan picked some 20 Al-Qaida top elites master minds of 9/11 attack who were on run in Afghanistan and after US invasion of Afghanistan were now escaping from there and trying to melt away in Pakistani cities in disguise along with other three million Afghani refugees. All the captured persons were handed over to US– whereas after a decade long struggle US after finding just one head Osama Bin Laden carried out a raid at his compound for which Pak ISI had also provided US a lead. This scoop has made US wild mad and over-joyous and they killed Osama Bin Laden at spot coldblooded. The raiders secretly swished his body away as a prized trophy, only to dump it later in the sea. Of course; elimination of most wanted person Osama is a grand trophy for US to celebrate her well sought victory in the US War against Terror.

    But for the hundreds of Conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 attack and subsequent Bush hegemonic War against Terror that people call it a phoney war initiated by Neocons in which millions in Middle East, Afghanistan and Pakistan died at the hands of US lead invading forces— but the only witness and contender to all this who would expose US designs; namely Osama Bin Laden is —- silenced.

    Ironically; pictures showing Osama’s demise and burial are not allowed to be published but statement of his young wife Amal who hail from Yemen, is circulated widely to prove that; raiding Seal Team 6 killed not a frail, ailing Osama but a potent terrorist.
    Pakistan and US are although allies in the War against Terror but have got bottom rocked marriage like strange and full of distrust relations. After having killed Bin Laden by stealth helicopters raids and having swished away his dead body as a trophy; rather than being thankful to Pakistan for her decade long assistance and also leading US to capture the trophy target Osama; US has aversely turned back and allege Pakistan of being complacent in hiding Osama.

    Pakistan has categorical denied that they got any knowledge of Osama presence in Abbotabad, where the man was eventually found living a life which can be termed as vegetative life as it is now revealed that he as an ailing frail person was spending his days as an impoverished person in a high walled compound, staying off from the sight of local peoples and with his strict parda observing conservative family. He had not stepped out of his compound for last five years.

    There has been a practice that US and Pakistan have always been sharing all the intelligence information but ironically; US did not exchange the information when they had found that in the compound to which ISI had indicated to US, was in fact in occupation of Osama Bin Laden and kept this information as their Lion share. Even the raid attack on Osama compound was also kept secret to themselves which is a sheer betrayal and conduct unbecoming of an ally.

    As ISI has openly admitted that they were not in knowledge of Bin Laden presence in Abbotabad; they well not be aware of it and it may be counted toward their intelligence failure too but if CIA also checks their own track record; it may find that it is also not very promising. Reportedly CIA spends some $80 Billion per annum for their services which is more that what all the Intelligence agencies collectively use but it is known fact that they did not imagine the fall of the Soviet Union, the revolutions of Eastern Europe, the breakup of Yugoslavia, the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks against New York and Washington, the nonexistence of Saddam Hussein’s arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, the global financial crisis and, most recently, the Arab Spring.

    ‘We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic’; says Noam Chomsky.

    Anyhow, after the death of Osama Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, ultimately, is now a spent force in the region. Perhaps it is that his mystique does not turn him to become ‘Viva Zapata a Mexican revolutionary, known as incorruptible rebel leader who is guided by his desire to return the land to the peasants, who have been robbed, while forsaking his personal interest. His story meditates on power, military and political, which corrupts men.

    But question is that why play up Osama bin Laden’s death with such fanfare that you even forget your allies who enabled you; to come around and make a scoop for trophy and celebrate a Victory; which is invariably bestowed to US after countless sacrifices that Pakistanis rendered as a labour of love for US and acting as front state in the War against Terror.
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    Credible Intel info was received and confirmed, The United States had to take a swift action to prevent losing a window of opportunity. The Special/Ops Boys were ordered to do their jobs, with ROE, fire when fired upon. Even a slight delay to advised the Allies prior to this mission would have been a bad idea. The President of The United States made a good call on this one. Kudos Mr. President....
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    Navy SEAL Jon Tumilson may had died in a raid of a corpseless "kill Bin Laden" show. He may also get a medal from President Obama at a non-present show. No film recorded it because of "security" consideration. But one thing for sure is that Pentagon had to tell his family where he was if he was still alive. So there was such a "Chinook shot down" hoax.

    Within days Pentagon said they killed the Taliban who shot down the helicopter. If it was that easy to track the Taliban who shot down the Chinook (consider how hard for US police to investigate in criminal case in US. Can Pentagon sent a team to enemy's camp to investgate?) and killed him, then such a powerful US troops would have eliminated the whole Taliban already. You should know it's more difficult to pick up a select individual than to wipe out a whole group in a battle or war. That's a third hoax to cheat people.





    Full And Complete Translation Of The Pakistani News Video
    This is a translation of the video linked at the bottom and was translated by my friend Khan Taashk. THANK YOU my dear friend. I wish there were a way for ALL Americans to read this translation.

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    Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also confirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.

    Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away

    Reporter: How many men?

    Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac…k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if oama was here then who took him to america because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking

    Reporter: Was there only one helicopter?

    Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.

    Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?

    Bashir: Yes They were.

    Reporter : How you know?

    Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes

    Reporter: You saw dead man?

    Bashir: Yes, dead men,

    Reporter: How many?

    Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighborhood has seen that but they are silent now.

    Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing

    Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?

    Bashir: We couldn’t count them because they were blown into pieces.

    The reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.

    Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.

    May be they were speaking Pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.

    They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.

    I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.

    My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me check whats going on.

    The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was American what was he thinking then?

    Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn’t had in his mind that they will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the Pakistan Army.

    The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?

    Bashir: Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away, he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn’t get a chance to talk to him later.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0vo...layer_embedded

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle28110.htm

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    Any Proof he was shot cold blooded?

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    Pakistani ISI has a mixed record of cooperation in the war on terror. The 24 pakistani troops that were bombed near the border were firing, or were next to people firing at NATO forces in Afghanistan. This shows fairly inept intelligence within the 'tribal regions' where Usama Bin Laden was quite popular and gave money to tribal people who likely did not know that he boasted about murdering 3,000 American civilian office workers on 9-11. He, UBL, developed a taste for building up rebelious armies and raising money from oil rich, whahabists when he was an asset working to oust the Soviets from Afghanistan in 1980's. After the Taliban, who included the ISI supported Mujahedin took over Afghanistan, in the vacuum left by the Soviet withdrawal, and their collapse as an empire. He kept get funding and was eventually banned from returning home to Saudi Arabia after speaking against and plotting to attack the house of Saud. After the invasion of Kuwait in 1990, he offered the Mujaheddin fighters to fight Iraq's million man armored invasion force., but was outbid by the US offer of 500,000 troops, quartered in the Saudi Kingdom prior to the liberation of Kuwait. Rebuked, he then took up the cause of keeping infidels out of Saudi Arabia and attacking the royal family there.While the Al Qaeda organization, a list of names, the base, is spent is has inspired other dangerous groups that exist even today and will be destroyed.The racist members of al qaeda are at odds with freedom and the rule of law and the nation state system.
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    Gimmick: Bin Laden's death

    When Pentagon admits it has no photo evidence of Bin Laden's death. I wonder what those high ranking government officials were watching in situation room? Was it just another gimmick to fool people?

     


    Pentagon admits it has no photo evidence of Bin Laden's death Special
     
    Elliott By Elliott Freeman
    May 1, 2012 - yesterday in Politics

     
    Pentagon officials recently disclosed to the Associated Press (AP) that they could not find any photo or video evidence to confirm that Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was killed in the Navy Seal raid in Pakistan a year ago.

    AP has submitted more than 20 requests for information surrounding the raid on Bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound to the U.S. Government under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

    In response to the request for visual evidence of Bin Laden’s death, the Pentagon stated that it could not find any pictures or video footage of the raid itself or of Bin Laden’s dead body. It also told AP it could not locate any images of Bin Laden’s body that were taken on the U.S.S. Carl Vinson, the Navy aircraft carrier that reportedly lowered him into the sea after his death.

    In addition, the Pentagon admitted that it could not find an autopsy report, death certificate or results of a DNA identification test for Bin Laden, in spite of claims made by President Obama and reported by CBC News that a DNA test was performed.

    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz1tkGArVgD

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    When Feds need war in Mid-east, Al Qaida came to help. That was 911 attack which gave them an excuse to start war in Afghan and Iraq. When the Feds can’t convince the public that they killed Bin Laden in “Geronimo Operation”, Al Qaida came out again to prove their master is correct.

    Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden's death
    Saturday, May 07, 2011


    NEW YORK -- Al-Qaida on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and warned of retaliation, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness."
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...rld&id=8115703


    Al Qaida, confirms Bin Laden's death while a lot of people suspect it's another hoax of the US government. Did Al Qadia join the "kill Bin Laden operation"? Have they got the DNA testing result? Or, more likely, it's just an order from their US master to help them to strenthen the lie?

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    The capture of Osama Bin Laden has been US policy for years. He is listed on the FBI 10 most wanted list. His death, while resisting capture to be tried for his crimes against humanity is a fact. Some governments engage in propaganda and we are understandably wary of these reports. osama Bin Laden used to work against the Soviet Army along with many wahhabist Jihadis. His role was more as a fund raiser and by giving money to local tribes in the Pakistani tribal areas created a safe haven there. he was found in pakistan near a Pakistani Army Base after all. Not everyone in pakistan is pro American but about half are and many have family in Europe and are trying to prosper. The politics of Al Qaeda are out of date and losing support among Arabs who have taken over their own governments during the Arab Spring movement of the last two years. The Muslim Brotherhood has there man as president of Egypt, the military council will protect him from any foreign policy misstep ofcourse as they work for the USA and are paid over 1 Billion per year to keep order in Egypt.The younger educated generation is rejecting the violent approach and becoming part of the political process. In time they will be good neighbors and strong allies.

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    Bin Laden denied involving in 911 attack. That’s conflict to what US says. So they wouldn’t let him go alive. Bin Laden died soon after 911.

    Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
    Published December 26, 2001

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    Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...#ixzz1zJqxABRn
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    Has Osama Bin Laden been dead for seven years - and are the U.S. and Britain covering it up to continue war on terror?

    By Sue Reid 11 September 2009

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1zJrNRsIi

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    There is no doubt that Osama Bin Laden was killed long after the dailymail article referenced here says he died of kidney failure at tora bora or maybe by the heavy bombardment. Osama Bin Laden died along with 3 others and his son at a compound in Abottobad, a suburb of the Pakistani capitol. This article among thousands should help clear this up. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americ...132275789.html.
    We are all entitled to our opinion and point of view, however when spreading ideas like this, that O B L the pervert, and killer of children, died back in 2001 it can serve to undermine the legitimate efforts of decent people to keep order in society. The holocaust happened and your troubles are your own doing. Allah Akhbhar

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